Mark Burik (00:04.624)
Hey everybody and welcome to the Better at Beach podcast. My name is Mark Burick and we got Brandon Joyner here joining us and it is his race week. So he retired from beach volleyball last year and you know, to solve all of his knee pains that plagued him his entire career decided to run on concrete for 10 miles a day. dude, are you pumped? said you're a little.
Brandon Joyner (00:31.054)
Yeah.
Mark Burik (00:34.532)
Little nervous. Do you think you're more or less nervous than your first ever, ABP qualifier?
Brandon Joyner (00:43.656)
it's, it's just different. You know, I think, the unknown is huge. I'm definitely ready. I've, like you said, I played my last tournament, Manhattan of last year. We did the king of the court and, September, which has some exciting news coming about that soon. But, yeah, after that, I kind of, decided that I wasn't, I wasn't just all there.
Mark Burik (01:01.53)
Thank
Brandon Joyner (01:13.228)
in the volleyball scene anymore. You know, I obviously love beach volleyball. I love our camps. I love the coaching. love the community aspect, but I was ready for something different. think the grind of trying to keep up with these young athletes and just the situation that the ABP was in for my specific level, I was like kind of always right on the outside trying to break my way in and.
Decided to shift my priorities a little bit to the company and then myself And it's been going great I it's funny like you bring up the knee pains My body has never felt better. I I even with all the I think the biking and the running has just allowed like the specific muscles that I needed in my body to really tighten up and The shifting that was happening in volleyball. I think that was like one of the main issues
but yeah, I, Saturday is coming up quick. I'll be doing the half iron man 70.3 and, and ocean side San Diego this weekend. yeah. And I'm excited. I was talking to you a little bit before it's, it's the first time that like, I think with volleyball, like I've just played so long and without really thinking about it, like, especially our collegiate experience that we have.
Mark Burik (02:37.988)
Mm-hmm.
Brandon Joyner (02:38.702)
I played in so many big games and I had so much support around me that I was able to lean on people a lot, especially being a setter. It was like, all right, I just get out there and do my job. And then the final outcome or the aspect was kind of, I relied on a lot of people. And same thing for Beach. My whole career, I was extremely fortunate to get paired up with
Mark Burik (02:46.748)
Thank
Brandon Joyner (03:06.798)
really, really solid players that were able to like carry loads for me or calm me down or kind of keep me in matches and stuff like that. And this is the first time I'm doing something. I swam growing up. So like I have a swimming background, which was extremely solo, but this is the first time like my training has been completely on myself. And now the race day is yeah, it's just me.
And so it's really cool, but it's really funny, man. Like I go through these waves right now of like extreme excitement where I'm like, heck yeah. Like this was five months of training. I'm ready to put my foot on the gas and see what I got and like just see what the outcome is. I plan on doing a couple of these and I mean, see how it goes in my life. I don't want to predict too much, but.
with how expensive this damn bike is. I have to do a couple races just to like bring that, bring that. I know. Yeah. So I definitely plan on doing a couple and I'm definitely going into this one of seeing where I'm at and just like enjoying the experience. But yeah, I go through these moments where like I'm extremely excited. I'm like, heck yeah, it's time. Like let's do it. Like let's let the dog eat.
Mark Burik (04:10.5)
You thought Picasso balls and Wilsons were expensive.
Brandon Joyner (04:34.274)
Let's, let's see what happens. And then 30 minutes later, I'm like, my gosh. Like I have to bike for close to three hours. Like what, what am I, am I going to be okay? And, but it's really cool. I've had, I've had, a lot of really, really cool support during this. I have like a group of friends here in Hermosa that are also doing the race with me. Ken and Rachel.
who have been awesome. Like we've kind of just been like keeping in touch with each other of how our training's going. I have a coach that has been writing my workouts for me. So I feel prepared in that sense. And then like really cool. I have one buddy named Chris that lives here that's done a couple of triathlons. Another guy Dom, Jinnia's boyfriend who has done a couple. then from camp, Tom.
Mark Burik (05:27.068)
Mm-hmm.
Mark Burik (05:32.241)
Yeah.
Brandon Joyner (05:32.92)
Tom Flaherty who is a freaking stud. I knew he was good, but I had him send me his times a couple weeks ago and I was like, holy cow, you're a beast. And so anytime I've reached out to anybody, I've gotten really, really cool answers and kind of really good advice. And yeah, it's fun to do something different.
Mark Burik (06:02.139)
Hmm.
Brandon Joyner (06:03.022)
And one thing that I've loved, and I think beach volleyball players can hear, like can understand this is it's been so nice doing something that I don't have to rely on anybody else. You know, like if I wake up at 8 a.m. and I don't have a super busy day, I can do my workout. If I have a really busy day and I need to wait until 7 p.m. to do my run or my bike or whatever, I can do that.
I don't have to search for three people to get out on the sand with me and coordinate times and coordinate all this stuff. So yeah, it's been pretty cool. I'm extremely happy with it. Yeah.
Mark Burik (06:42.722)
Yeah, I'd say to me, that's the definitely the best part of not needing to play beach volleyball anymore. Just hunting down the people to get a foursome. And then you get a fifth who's kind of solid and you don't want to let them down. So you're like, all right, come on. Yeah, we'll practice with five. And then they find somebody and now it's a three team practice. And then you're like, all right, cut our reps. But let's see what goes from here.
yeah, absolutely. That is, the, would say the worst part of beach volleyball and beach volleyball training. Lindsay tried to break into the podcast for a second. producer has producers, our security guard has removed her.
Brandon Joyner (07:26.062)
Hey, she's allowed. She's allowed.
Yeah, shoot, I was gonna say something, but it my mind once I started thinking about McKenzie. But yeah, I think it's, you know, and this is where I was going. I think one of the things that I've, definitely a mental thing, definitely something I was battling with. I don't know if you went through the same thing, but especially with how much we are involved in the sport.
Mark Burik (07:59.696)
Mm-hmm.
Brandon Joyner (08:01.23)
and just with our tenure of playing volleyball, I was extremely scared to step away. Like, I didn't know if, I mean, there were really deep battles that I had with myself of like, are you gonna be forgotten? Like, are you, is it gonna affect the company? Like, and I think I was able to get over that pretty quickly.
because we are still so involved and now I'm doing probably what I love even more than playing is coaching, is giving back. I'm able to put more energy into developing more opportunities for people in California. I'm able to go to these camps and feel extremely refreshed. like, before it was like, okay, I'm training all week and then I'm flying out to some random city to...
to coach and it's like trying to balance that, not trying to burn out. But it's been really cool. Like when I'm out on the court, I feel great. I like, I'm watching these players that can do way more than I could. And now I just get to pass on the information that I've learned over the years and watch them actually be able to do it, which is really fun. And then when I go to the camps, it's like, I'm getting back into that.
Super heavy coach period where in three days I get to help somebody become a different player You can see their confidence come back and there's absolutely no weight on my shoulders anymore with that So it's been it's been a great. I think it was a perfect switch up I'll still like once I'm done with this race. I'll hop into our Monday Night Kings and Queens I'll start playing again at camps and do do stuff like that
Mark Burik (09:33.595)
Mm-hmm.
Brandon Joyner (09:55.382)
So I'm not done playing, playing, but competing and traveling and being a part of the circus. Yeah, I'm okay with leaving that part behind.
Mark Burik (10:11.588)
So interesting. To me, I don't know why I just started thinking about the difference between coaching beginners and intermediates and then the pros. The level of energy, it's like a different type of energy that you bring to beginners and intermediates where you're trying to fix gross skills and everything is really obvious.
Brandon Joyner (10:29.368)
Mm-hmm.
Mark Burik (10:39.27)
but you're also so energetic in entering the next ball because there's more, more errors. So like as a coach, you need to keep everybody moving on the court and making sure that everybody gets reps. And then we go in, like, I don't know if you know, but I'm coaching Jake and Ian on Wednesday versus you, Logan and Hagen. Yeah. so.
Brandon Joyner (11:02.261)
I did not do that. That's awesome. Fun.
Mark Burik (11:06.076)
Ian Satterfield and Jake Arutio want me to just take a look at their game before the, before the qualifier. And, you know, when I'm working with like Matt, Matt Hazel at the camps and I'm looking at Ian and I got to see Wyatt Harrison and some of our drills. He did a great job coaching, by the way. The, have to wait to see like 10, 15, 20 reps.
in order to find this little tiny thing. So the level of like mental focus, you're just hunting, hunting, So that's a different energy than seeing something big and then saying like, okay, let's rep out and let's find what cue you need to get this for the beginners and the intermediate players. So it's such a switch that I go through.
Cause I got to, you know, Matt's still on the hunt. I think he's going to qualify for the first time this year. I'd like, I think he's going to start doing some damage really. And the difference between finishing with an intermediate or beginner group at our camp and then starting to work with the pro level guys right after camp. It's such a different hunt for what's going right and what's going wrong. and it's just so interesting because we, we did an hour and 45 minutes of high lines.
with him and Steve Stacey from Naples. And it's just, number one, you got to execute. You have to put in a two by two foot box. You have to be able to put five out of six shots in there, you know, if not five for five. And it took me a while. I don't know if most people know this, but that's that drill hitting into a two by two foot high line box. That drill made me quit indoor. I was.
was at a camp in Turkey and I remember the previous year I could hit, I mean, I was eight, nine out of 10, like hitting into that two foot, in a simple high line drill. And guys, if you're listening and you've never challenged yourself to go to a court and say, we are going to stay here until one of our group of three or just me hits 50 high lines into a two foot box.
Mark Burik (13:23.42)
Right. think most of you probably have to start with 20 and that's going to be a two, maybe a three hour practice, but until you can pass set and hit that spot over and over and over again, don't move on. Keep doing it. Keep repping out until it's accurate. But I, uh, I remember I was like eight, eight or nine out of 10 in September. And then I went, played a season overseas indoor, and then I come back and I'm just like, my dad is tossing to me.
just throwing so that I could hit at the, one of these big beach pillows. And it was taking me a while and I just kept getting more more pissed and he looked like he wanted to be out of there because I was getting so out. And like I missed another one. I just like looked up at this guy and I was like, that's it.
I'm done. And he goes, okay, so we can leave. can go get dinner. I told you I'm getting 20. I'm done with indoor. I will never be this bad at beach volleyball again. Like I hated so much that I had taken seven or eight months off and that I couldn't execute what I could, in September. And it's just such a simple drill that like drills don't have to be complicated. Can you hit this target over and over?
But, and then finding those little things that will make it go over a block, that will make it be deceptive, that will make you reach high and hit flat on every ball. And I think that's what Matt Hazel is working on right now. Number one, the consistency of that shot when that's just the shot that you got to hit. Cause then you have to add all the decision making, right? Like, okay, you can hit the high line at one point, you got to get there to have no decisions to make and still be able to execute nine out of 10.
Brandon Joyner (14:48.046)
Mm-hmm.
Brandon Joyner (14:58.36)
Right.
Mark Burik (15:07.908)
And then you got to add it with decisions and a blocker trying to touch you. So.
Brandon Joyner (15:13.13)
Right. Yeah. I think kind of going back to what you said about the different mindsets as a coach. I think one of the big differences is that beginners and intermediates are so hard on themselves. You know, where like they expect every single play, like, especially when they're learning something new, I kind of experienced this in New Orleans a little bit with a couple of guys.
And I got a really cool text like a couple of days ago from a guy that like went home after camp. And he was like, you know, I'm not going to lie when I left camp, I was a little, I wasn't a hundred percent sure if I got better, but now that I've gotten home, I can feel it all. and it's crazy because I think when, when you're a pro or a triple a high level open player, whatever you want to call it, where you are in the country, if you make a mistake,
you're able to pick up on why you did it. And you also understand that they happen. but when you're working with beginners and intermediates, it's, it's almost like if they get, if they miss something, a bomb blows up and they're like, no, like I'm terrible. And it's like, I've had this conversation at camps a lot. And I think, I think it can go a long way. It's like, if you're working on this high line drill,
And the first day you go out, you're the mark that quit indoor. And it takes you two hours to hit 20 high lines in this box. Sometimes three hours. Like I think working in numbers is a little bit easier. Let's say like you give yourself 10 opportunities and the first time that you do it, maybe you get zero, like zero out of 10. And you're like, okay, that's my level. The goal the next time you do it, be happy with getting one.
Mark Burik (17:07.548)
Mm-hmm.
Brandon Joyner (17:08.174)
Don't expect yourself to get nine or eight or something like that. But if you can kind of be okay with that incremental increase of Accomplishing that skill the goal is to see growth and so like the first time you do that drill if you get zero The next day you come out You might get two you might get one like There might be a day where you show up and you get five out of ten the next day. You might show up and you get three
Like there's going to be some things, but you're just hoping that consistently over time, you're able to increase that number. And I think like, if we think about it in that sense, especially as a player, if you're, if you're a beginner and intermediate, whatever skill you're talking about, if you're able to have that, you automatically put less pressure on yourself and you're able to understand that the growth is happening. And if growth is happening,
Mark Burik (17:38.204)
Mm-hmm.
Brandon Joyner (18:06.7)
No matter how big or small, obviously we all want it to be super big and super aggressive. That's like the happiest that you'll ever feel, but the growth is the important part. And I think that that's, that's like one of the biggest difference between beginners and intermediates and that open pro level is like, we understand that that happens. So, yeah. Right.
Mark Burik (18:28.488)
And we've all been there. We've all like wondered what, you know, for me, it was wondering what Todd Rogers hitting percentage was like how many times out of 10 is he getting this and our online members this week, their challenge was to choose. And there's another thing about, about your goal setting. Like if it is the two by two foot box and you start at zero out of 10 for a lot of people that becomes demotivating.
when they're at zero out of 10. So you have the choice, like open it up to a four by four or an eight by eight box. And then once you do, if you show up two or three days in a row and you hit it eight out of 10, now we shrink the box, right? Reset your numbers and say, okay, what's my percentage of hitting a four by four foot box as a high line? So the goal setting becomes
So important and it needs to be achievable. needs to be like motivating and you have to figure, figure that out. So our online members right now, they should have submitted all of their videos, but it was standing float serves and they got to choose between two court maps. One of them is when the court, the court is divided in quarters or they could divide it into eighths and their job was to see how many serves it took them to get around the.
So if you chose eight spots, right, then you have to hit all eight and you can't move on until you've hit that spot and you can't accidentally hit any spot. And so you have to work your way around twice. For the people who are choosing the quarter of the court, you have to work your way around the court twice. And just standing float surf locations so that we're, for our online members right now, we're just setting a baseline saying, guys, I don't really care about your score today.
Over the next five weeks, when we fix our serving, like this is the progression that we're going to get to and we're going to increase it two or three, right? You're to have two or three less serves to get around the world in that drill. And that's a drill that I did with my kids in Sweden too, the juniors club. We had nine swings at the beginning of every practice from the right side. You had to jump spike serve from the 10 foot line and hit left, middle, right.
Mark Burik (20:47.056)
Then from the middle of the court, had to left, middle, right. And then from the left of the court, you had to left, middle, right. And every day they would write down their score out of nine. Right. And they became addicted to it. And they also knew the first 10 minutes of their practice. Like this is what we're doing. And so every kid on my team had a jump spike serve because they had to figure it out. And they're all also getting hitting practice. So I think just setting standards over time, which is really difficult for people who are just playing.
Brandon Joyner (21:17.292)
Right. Or that have no eye. Yeah.
Mark Burik (21:17.532)
And, and, and if you're listening to this podcast still, I think you've got to be the type of person that is really interested in improving. And if you don't have your wall of PR boards, like just any Excel sheet or something where you just choose, okay, maybe one of your PRs is like, like we're talking about out of 10 high lines on a free ball. How many am I hitting?
Write that down somewhere on any given day or any given warmup. Just beat that. It takes you what? Two and a half minutes to attempt 10 high lines, right? Just draw the box with your foot and go in there and make that your warmup every day and then see where you're at and see if you're progressing over time in a little like Excel sheet. And then you'll see the growth, but it will wave. You know, you'll.
It'll like have the dips, but it'll be a steady increase. And then when you do plateau, we're here for you. Come to a camp, join the online program and get set up.
Brandon Joyner (22:21.624)
I it.
Mark Burik (22:23.964)
So before we head out, last two FIVB tournaments, crazy, crazy wind. There were pros just sending free balls over on one, over on two. So that was pretty nuts. But there's also this new format. so essentially 24 teams are in, right? There's a one round qualifier, 16 are in, 16 are in automatic.
Brandon Joyner (22:36.75)
crazy
Mark Burik (22:53.34)
And eight get through the qualifier, I think. it's one round of qualifiers and then it's 16 pools. Now six, 14 pools. Yeah. And then you get to playoff. if you win your pool, that's six and then the second and third place teams, they also qualify, but there ends up being in playoffs. 12 teams, 12 teams that make it and.
Brandon Joyner (22:55.758)
Mm-hmm.
Brandon Joyner (23:01.24)
Six, six, 14 pulls. Yeah.
Mark Burik (23:22.81)
the last two teams can lose after pool play. So they lose in playoffs, but if they end up losing by less than somebody else did, they still get into the next round of playoffs.
Brandon Joyner (23:43.054)
a lucky one a lucky loser
Mark Burik (23:46.108)
But here's where it's crazy. There were, I forget if it were one or two teams that went to three. A tougher match, arguably, right? But because now you have two losing games, it's still the points difference. So you won a set, you pushed to three, you had a closer game, but you get punished harder for loosening that.
Brandon Joyner (23:57.006)
Mm-hmm.
Brandon Joyner (24:05.422)
weird.
Brandon Joyner (24:10.254)
Mmm.
Mark Burik (24:15.418)
than you do if you just lose in two, 21-19, 21-19.
Brandon Joyner (24:15.822)
Yeah.
Brandon Joyner (24:20.142)
Interesting.
Yeah, weird format. Yeah, that's that. Yeah, there's something up with that one.
Mark Burik (24:23.182)
I think that's nuts! Like, there has to be some kind of...
Mark Burik (24:29.786)
Right. So I understand the losing the centers. Like I've gotten knocked out of tournaments based on points lost or like win to loss ratio for points. And you're always kind of doing this stupid math. And then you look back and you're like, my God, if we had just focused for one more point, then we would be in playoffs. But to go to three, push the harder game. And then you get, you get punished more over somebody that lost cleanly in two.
Brandon Joyner (24:31.65)
Yeah.
Brandon Joyner (24:37.326)
Mm-hmm.
Mark Burik (25:00.656)
doesn't make sense to me.
Brandon Joyner (25:03.096)
Yeah, so just so I'm clear, I think the way it worked is like, because we have that round of 12, right? And the way that they found that was the winner of each pool automatically made it to that, we'll call it the second round, right? And then was it the two's, all the two's and three's play against each other and the winners go in.
Mark Burik (25:21.264)
Yeah.
Mark Burik (25:24.986)
than all the twos and threes.
Brandon Joyner (25:33.816)
but that's only four teams. And so there were two spots open for...
Mark Burik (25:39.836)
That's my six teams. Now there are six winners of that. And so that's 12 teams. And then you have the rest of the, of the losers that you have to get, that you have to get four from.
Brandon Joyner (25:48.289)
yeah.
Brandon Joyner (25:52.824)
So, yeah.
Mark Burik (25:54.182)
So out of the twos and threes, they're taking, you know, the winners plus four more teams where you're doing that lucky loser.
Brandon Joyner (26:04.878)
Two more.
Mark Burik (26:06.972)
Well, you got the six. The six, wonderful.
Brandon Joyner (26:08.696)
Yeah, the six, because it's around a 12, right? So then four come through on wins and then two are joining them. So that would be six meeting the other six.
Brandon Joyner (26:23.406)
Is that right? Right?
Mark Burik (26:23.74)
Six pools, right? So you got the winners, that's six teams. Then you have all of the twos versus threes, right? So six of those matches, so that adds up to 12 more. And so then you're selecting four of those that lost by the least to get to 16.
Brandon Joyner (26:37.453)
Right.
Brandon Joyner (26:41.111)
Okay.
Brandon Joyner (26:48.024)
Yeah, it's the fact that it's hard to wrap our heads, it's hard for me to wrap my head around. I think from what I was seeing from a lot of people, like I was following Kyle and track how friend and Travis Mayweather as the tournament was going on. And I even saw Phil posted something where he was like, please explain this. yeah, he posted, he said something, said something out loud.
Mark Burik (26:48.335)
stuff.
Mark Burik (27:08.006)
Phil got involved. Phil Doerhaeuser made a public announcement on the state of volleyball.
Brandon Joyner (27:16.783)
which you know, if, if, if, yeah, if Phil's coming out of the woodworks, then it's something funky. But yeah, I mean.
Mark Burik (27:16.844)
I even talk to real estate.
Brandon Joyner (27:29.536)
I think it's con- I mean, the pro of it is...
they're allowing more teams to play and have opportunities. The negative is obviously that it's hard to follow. But yeah, and I thought one of the cool things that happened from this, whether it's good or bad, is I know James and Cain lost their first round.
ended up being one of those lucky losers, ended up getting a bronze in the event, which came and James, like they upset the Swedes. They looked strong. James is a freaking monster. Dude, he hit, he hit some balls and like screamed afterwards. And I was like, this is, this is good. This is good for the U S and came.
Mark Burik (28:21.958)
Yep.
Mark Burik (28:26.888)
Yeah
Brandon Joyner (28:32.066)
Cain looked like he was back to his Olympian self. He was siding out, he was controlled, he looks like he's in great shape. So they had a phenomenal finish. And then on the women's side, I believe Therese and Megan, they also lost their first round and they ended up with a silver. So it's, it helped us.
Mark Burik (28:43.036)
Mm-hmm.
Mark Burik (29:01.626)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, for now.
Brandon Joyner (29:01.742)
It helped the US, which is, yeah, right. So definitely interesting, but I'm sure that there, think Travis had posted something where he was like, there are definitely two teams that are very happy with this format. Yeah. And so it was, was cool to, cool to see them doing so well. It was all, also, I got to watch a decent amount of
parts of the games, didn't watch a lot of complete matches, but it's like Molly's shown up again. They had a little family outing in Mexico with her and James, where James got a bronze and then think Kelly and Molly ended up taking a fourth. But it's cool to see her. I know we talked about her on one of the last episodes. It's cool to see her getting that opportunity and
once again, showing up to an Elite 16 as somebody that fell into a partnership because Sarah, I think Sarah Hughes is out this year with a recovering from an Achilles injury. But once again, showing that she deserves to be out there, which is, it's awesome to see. And just good people too. So it's fun to watch that.
Mark Burik (30:26.608)
Well, we got to wrap it up. we got to go work with our online members. We are, they had some drill responsibilities last week where they had some videos to watch for float serves. And again, doing those map, those mapped drills, basically target practice. And we're going to start getting into teaching them how to jump float serve and.
Brandon Joyner (30:27.234)
Yeah.
Mark Burik (30:50.908)
From this camp in the last couple of weeks, we've had a few more people sign up for our one-on-one program, which is 3,500 for the year. And it's an all-inclusive camp and class package. So if you're in Hermosa or you're planning on coming to more than one camp, you also get 12 private lessons with an elite coach. Right now it's me. Then we're going to add Brandon and Logan as well as the program grows. So you get a year of tutoring.
from a person who has played AVP, FIVB in private video lessons where we're guiding you through the program, guiding you through your year. But we've got a few more signups from that, from this camp that happened in Las Vegas. It was really awesome, crazy that less than 25 % of the people who came to the Vegas camp were actually from the Vegas area. Everybody flew in. So that was really cool to see.
Brandon Joyner (31:47.266)
Do people live in Vegas?
Mark Burik (31:49.646)
I was like, why do we bring these camps to do the people if they don't go? But it was great.
Brandon Joyner (31:55.156)
Yeah, right. that's, yeah, that's awesome. I love it. yeah. And, just a little announcement. we've, we've got a lot of camps coming up. we're finalizing going back to Punta Cana Dominican Republic. We finally got our, our, contract signed and booking link is available. So that will be going live soon.
Mark Burik (32:13.764)
Yeah
Brandon Joyner (32:24.078)
Yeah. And we're also talking to some other locations and getting, getting ready to host a little bit more seven day camps next year. got hit a little hard this year with the hurricanes coming to Florida, but it looks like we're going to be going back to Miami. And then, we're also going to try to get back in St. Pete, go back to our original home and, and, run an event there again. So keep your eye out for, for some, week long events. you.
Mark Burik (32:47.159)
Love that.
Brandon Joyner (32:51.042)
want to come vacation with us as well as get better.
Mark Burik (32:54.364)
And then in the more near future we have Oklahoma City coming up April 4th, Scottsdale, Arizona, April 11th, Austin, Texas. We have a two day camp Friday and Saturday. And then we have a Kings and Queens tournament on Sunday, May 4th. So you can sign up for one or two days of the camp and you can separately sign up for the tournament. So if you're in Austin and you want to play some ball.
Be ready to come out the weekend of May 2nd. And then for me back home to Long Island, May 30th in Long Beach, New York. We're also running a camp in San Diego that is really close to sold out. So if you're in San Diego or you want to go there, we'll be at Wave Beach, Olson spot. May 30th in San Diego. Like I said, we have very few spots left if any right now. And then Virginia Beach, June 20th and Milwaukee, June.
27th with Bend, Oregon, our seaside tune up tournament or seaside tune up camp, July 25th and Santa Rosa. We got a bunch of people who are signing up for Santa Rosa, California. I've never been there. So I'm excited to, to head up to the Northern part of California. So I bet we get a lot of people from San Francisco, come over to the Santa Rosa event. That'll be fun.
Brandon Joyner (34:18.06)
Yeah. and just one last little announcement. if I've had, I don't know why, but I guess money's tight these days, but, people have been reaching out about, discounts for camps. if you're looking for a discount, the, the easiest way to get a discount is by joining our online programs. So not only do you get all the courses and, workout programs, mobility programs,
online videos and interviews that we've done with people in the past where they share their knowledge. Our basic offer, which is just access to our courses, $25 a month also gets you 5 % off on all camps, three day and seven. And then our elite version gets you 15 % off. And along with that elite option, not only do you get all the content, but you also get the live meetings every week with Mark, like he's just getting ready to hop on.
And then of course we have our top version where all of that stuff's included. You just get to come hang out at camp. I know we have a couple of people on that right now and they're showing up to us and hanging out. Donnie was in Vegas this past weekend. He's a part of our league here in Hermosa. And he's, he's been traveling around the country with us, getting to see a couple of cool venues, cool beaches, cool towns. And I know he's loving it. So.
Mark Burik (35:46.716)
Yeah. It's fun. I feel like our community is growing and thickening and we get to meet all these players in the different towns in different cities. And then today somebody who signed up for the pro membership, I was like, I know somebody else who was on our program in San Diego. I'm going to connect you with him right now. And so they're going to start drilling and repping out together. And so like now we're able to connect these players who are learning the same stuff and on a path to actually improve.
Brandon Joyner (35:48.149)
opportunity.
Mark Burik (36:15.674)
And we're connecting them in all their different places. So it's really awesome. It's, it's getting like thicker, better, even more community. yeah. And we're connecting people around the world and we're getting to like, give them the experience that we had as high level players where you meet all these people in different cities because you went and traveled to that tournament and you need a place to stay. But now we're starting that social process, like even earlier in their careers.
Brandon Joyner (36:18.658)
Yeah, I love it.
Brandon Joyner (36:38.734)
Mm-hmm.
Mark Burik (36:44.368)
Like when they're still intermediates and beginners, now they're already meeting all of these players from different cities that they can connect and travel with. So.
Brandon Joyner (36:51.33)
Yeah, we should add that to the selling points. It's like unlimited couch surfing. Sign a waiver. Yeah.
Mark Burik (36:58.328)
Yeah, that's a great idea.
Mark Burik (37:07.002)
Yeah, that's so weird.
All right, time for me to go coach and I will see you Wednesday, Logan and Hagan versus Jake and Ian. Yeah.
Brandon Joyner (37:15.726)
See you tomorrow. Yeah, we might have to put me and you have a little side bet
Mark Burik (37:22.588)
Ooh. Yeah, I don't want to compete tomorrow because I got to, they got to send me some film so that I could see what's going on with their defense. and. Well, it'll be a lot of side out. All right. We'll do mini games and we'll put some cash on it.
Brandon Joyner (37:23.886)
I like that.
Brandon Joyner (37:32.6)
Sounds like you're scared to me.
Brandon Joyner (37:37.58)
Yeah, okay, whatever dude sounds like you don't sounds like you don't believe in your guys All right, know hey, thanks for the head start I appreciate it All right, I'll see you tomorrow buddy
Mark Burik (37:43.208)
now it's... I worked with your guys for two years, if anything. All right. Yeah, light up. Bye, everybody. See you on the sand.
Brandon Joyner (37:58.51)
See y'all.