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Hey guys, Coach Matt here. Just wanted to drop in and say thank you for listening in each and every week to our podcast. Before we get into who the guest is for today, I want to drop in some dates for camps coming up in the new year. Coming up in January, we're going to St. Pete, Florida twice. And then we got Loveland, Ohio, and then we got Tacoma, Washington. Tacoma, Washington's already sold out. In February, we're going to Salt Lake City, Utah. March, we're going to Ozark, Missouri.
Long Island, New York. April, we're going to Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. May, we're going to Long Island, New York. June, we're going to Virginia Beach, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. And then in July, we're going to Long Island, New York. Guys, keep in mind that we're adding to that list on the daily. So you can find all those events on betterbeach.com slash events. So be on the lookout for those as we're adding camps to that every single day. Now,
For the podcast guest for today, we got Valentina Gattardi, Italian beach volleyball player. She's played in the Olympics. She talks through what it's like to have an amazing mentor as a partner in the transition from playing indoor volleyball to beach volleyball. And then also the goals and aspirations that are on the up and coming, like LA 2028. So I hope you guys enjoy this conversation as much as we did. Y'all check it out. Since we have a few people jumping in.
and if I'm not mistaken, to make this into a podcast as well. Just give us a rundown of who is Valentina Gattardi? Tell us who she is, maybe some accolades that you have. Anything and everything. What do you want us to know about you? I used to be an indoor player when I was young. When I was really young, I used to do a lot of sports, also gymnastics.
and I used to like it, but in the end I found out that volleyball was my passion and I was better at it. So I followed my sister path and I started playing indoor volleyball. But I played for a long time. But after that, she decided to play beach volleyball. And after one year and half, I followed her and I switched to beach volleyball too, but only
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after the Italian national team asked me if I wanted to play for the national team and if I wanted to dedicate myself 100 % to beach volleyball. And I only played a few tournaments before them asking me that, but I loved beach volleyball since my first match. So as soon as they asked me to dedicate myself to beach volleyball, I said yes immediately.
and I moved here in Fornion and I was 18 years old, at least almost 18 years old, it was two months before my birthday, four years ago. So I always followed my sister and I think that was the right decision because I prefer beach volleyball a lot more than indoor volleyball.
You are present in the court all the time and you have to know how to do everything and you cannot have someone to come inside the court instead of you or to play instead of you. You have to find out solutions by yourself. You don't have the coach inside the court and it's not always easy but yeah, it was the right decision. I'm sure about that and I think that
We are working well here in Italy, in Formia. We have a good team, good staff. And I think that I can improve a lot and we can do good things together. I love that. So awesome. So you started, you said you started in gymnastics. Yes, rhythmic gymnastics. Do you feel like that helped in any way your volleyball? Yeah, I think so.
Also nowadays I'm lot elastic and it helps during the movement and sometimes I'm flying all around the court and I get in strange positions and gymnastics probably helped me in being more elastic and yeah, I think it helped me. Nice, nice. I've heard that athletes who were gymnasts prior
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I've heard a lot of parents and coaches say that people who started in gymnastics are now much better athletes than the majority of other people. So I'm thinking, I have a baby on the way, I'm thinking like maybe we should get him in gymnastics to start his career. Yeah, and then you can switch to something else. yeah. mean, gymnastics was really fun. I loved it when I was younger.
And yes, I participated in lot of competitions too, but when I started indoor volleyball, then the two things were not possible together because of too many training sessions that we had in both sports. And I loved volleyball.
In the end, I decided to abandon the gymnastic career, which was not a career because I'm probably too tall for being a gymnast. But yeah, it was fun when I was younger, but yeah, it was not my sport. Gotcha. Gotcha. So then you went to indoor volleyball. And then how long was that sport in indoor volleyball? I played for since I was 10 or less.
Until the until 18. So almost 18. One tournament and then my current coach saw me and asked me if I was interested and I already had an indoor team ready for me waiting for me and they prepared the team based on me. But it was September so it was one week.
before the beginning of the season and I thought I'm sorry, I'm really sorry but I want to do something else. Nice, and it worked out. It worked out. Yes, it worked out pretty well but we have still a lot of work to do. great, I love it. And so it sounds like you were very sold on beach volleyball as soon as you got to play. So what was...
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What do you feel like was, I know you mentioned you have to figure out solutions by yourself. You're out there, you're very present in the play, whereas indoor there's six people on a court. What were some other things that made it very clear that you really wanted to be in beach volleyball instead? In my first year, I was in the YAF team. So I used to play with other young athletes.
But after only one season in the middle of the summer, Marta, after the Olympics in Tokyo, didn't have a partner, teammate anymore. And there was the Italian Championship Finals the next week. So they asked me if I was interested in playing with Marta Medegatti and I said...
Obviously, I mean, she's the best Italian player ever. And she's always been a role model to every beach volleyball athlete in Italy and not only in Italy. So I said yes, immediately it was a great.
So.
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I was, we want to do one and one, I for the block, to one time you block and the other I block and I said no. I don't know how to defend, I've never done it. we block. And we played that tournament, it was fun. We won that tournament and no one was expecting it because
It was my first season and there were a lot of good teams over there. There were also two Russian teams and we won against them two times. So yeah, it was a great, great experience. And after that, were the finals in Italy, in Sardinia. So they decided, the Italian Federation decided to ask for a wild card from Miamata.
and we played the finals together. It was my second international tournament in general. Yes, the finals against the best of the best. And I didn't even know what to do and I met some players in the elevator and I was all red and I didn't know what to say. It was an amazing experience and I learned a lot from this tournament.
and they decided to give me a chance, possibility to demonstrate my value and they let me play with Marta for a full season and it went not too well at the beginning because I was not ready to face the international tournaments. But in the end, middle of the season with the World Championship here in Italy, we did fifth place.
and no one was expecting that because we couldn't even win the future tournaments. But yeah, it was a great result and tournament after tournament we improved a lot, me as an individual and we as a team. Marta helped me so, much. I'm so thankful.
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to her for all the experience that she gave me. I've learned so much from her and I wouldn't be here without her. Wow, that is so cool. And I want to talk more about that here soon, but it sounds like you went from not really playing much beach at all to pretty much to the top level immediately. was really fast.
It was very fast and at the beginning it was a little bit strange and we couldn't win a single match but the Italian Federation kept supporting us and sending us to all the tournaments and maybe at the beginning we couldn't win the qualification but after a little bit, playing a lot
we improved and we understood what we could have become and what we needed to work on. My coach, Caterina, is a really, really good one and she helped me a lot. It was not so easy to manage different...
needs because Martha was 12 years older than me, so maybe she needed something different from what I needed. And she did it really, really well. She understood the necessities of both athletes. And yeah, she created a really good team, a supporting system behind with also the physiotherapist and
A really important figure for me was the psychologist. He is really, really good and he is still working with us. He helped me a lot to manage the pressure of playing immediately in the highest level with the best teams and to become more conscious of what I can do.
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That's really cool. It sounds like you have such a really good supporting crew behind you. that's true. It seems like you value them a lot. And thinking back to, I mean, the partnership that you're continuing with, she's been to what? Three Olympics Olympics? This was our fourth Olympics. OK, so with that being said, obviously, you already mentioned how much you've learned from her, but I can't imagine the value that
that has taken in your career so far and the value that that's going to carry on even throughout the rest of your career, whether you're playing with her or with someone else. But I want to ask you if there was one thing that you have learned from her that you were like, have to, this is the most monumental thing to my volleyball career up to this point. What would be that lesson that you've learned from your partner so far?
That's not an easy question. Probably, as I told you before, she's so much experienced and she knows what to do in the right moment. And she knows when we have to call a timeout. She knows when we have to go stronger in the service and when to focus on the side out and all this stuff.
And I think that this is the most important thing that I've learned from her and that I will use in the future and I will keep it with me and I will think about her every time that I will do it. So basically just timing of when to make the big moves is what you're saying. exactly. Especially in the beginning, she was really helpful.
in this way because I didn't know how to play. It was my first and a half year in the World Tour and she was so much experienced. She's played for so long time. She started her season career at 16, I think, years old. So a long time ago and now she's 34.
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So her career was really, really long. We don't know what she will do next. But right now I have to focus on myself and we have other good opportunities coming up. we demonstrate in Rio, for example, that we can do good things also with someone else.
and I hope that Martha will come back, but I'm not sure about that. We will find out, time will tell us. In the meantime, have to focus on what I can do without her, but I will for sure remember what I've learned from her and I will keep it with me. I think that it will be really, really helpful during my whole career.
Yeah, that's so cool. Yeah. And then now you can take that and I feel like you have so much experience now that many, players don't have, which in your first, four years of your career, you've already gone to world championships, you've already gone to the Olympics. So now you're, you're kind of already turning into that experienced side player where you're probably going to be kind of
being that one. I know this experience is not for Olympics. Yes, I mean, right now I have a lot of experience behind me and I think that I will need it for the next four years and it will be something had value.
that we will have to use. But I think that I'm not an experienced player yet. I mean, just started. I'm so young. I have so much to learn. I don't define me as an experienced player. Gotcha. Yeah. And by the way, guys, those of you that are in our meeting right now, y'all feel free, if y'all know, think of any questions that you want to ask, just throw them in the chat or unmute yourself so you can ask her.
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But until then I'm just gonna keep asking you questions Valentina just to kind of keep you in a bit So you you're 22 you've been playing since 18 Beach volleyball already been into the world championships already been to the Olympics Whenever how was your? Your qualification process that's always an interesting story where like some people have a pretty smooth
or they qualified through a few big Elite 16 wins or some people like Sophie from Canada, it was kind of a Yeah, last minute. Yeah, so what is your There so many different stories about the qualification. Ours is not so emotional as Sophie's one or as...
the Swiss team because it was a hell of a fight. We were qualified after Doha, Elite 16, at the beginning of last year. But only because it was our 12th tournament, we were already qualified before. So we were...
We didn't have a lot of pressure in the last year because of the qualification and it was helpful because in this way we could focus on what we needed to improve and to do so that we would have been ready for the Olympics. And it was not easy because I am young and we are different players and
Things changed in the last year because at beginning I didn't know how to play. So everyone was just serving on me and Marta used to have me. While in the last year, things changed a little bit and the dynamics were different and we had to change the way of thinking. Sometimes I was the one...
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who needed to help Marta. So it was more... not equal because Marta is still a better player than me and more experienced one. But it was more... yeah, something like equal. A little bit balanced. Got you. Yes. I want to ask you a question. I think it's amazing what you've done so far for your age. I hope you realized that.
But also now being with Martha was probably such an amazing experience to learn from someone that have done everything basically in beach volleyball. But now that you're starting like this new partnership, how do you feel that role? Because now your role is completely different. You play with a girl that's like same generation. She's a older than you, but it's like a lot closer in age than you were with Martha.
So how is that going, going from like being that non-experienced player to almost like equal in that new partnership? Yeah, first of all, it's, Rekha is not my partner yet because the Italian Federation wants me to play with two different players and then they will decide who my For those next tournaments, let's just say.
Yes, but for this I played with Reika and Leo and I had a lot of fun. I think that we played quite well and we showed what we can do and that we can improve a lot. yeah, she did great and we will play also in the finals where we had this opportunity. I qualified for the finals with Marta, but Marta was not able to play and they allowed me to play with Reika.
because we will play against the best teams and it will be a nice challenge, a nice way to see if we can be at their level. It will be different for sure. Without Marta it's strange, also because of the fact that I've always played on the right side. You think it doesn't change a lot, but it changes.
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It changed. Yeah, also in indoor I used to play when I was young and then I became an opposite. So I've always played on the right side. And it's different. I have a lot of things to learn. And I don't think that I have to teach something to my partner because that's not the way I like to think of beach volleyball. We are teammates and I'm not a coach.
We have a coach, a really good one, so we will follow our way of thinking and we will try to do our best. I will try to help my teammate, but I think that there will be times where she will need to help me. So, yeah, I think it's important all the process that I've done in these four years and it will help us. It will be value added, but...
Yeah, I don't think that it's me having to teach something to someone else. Yeah, that's great. And so now you're preparing for the finals, which is with the top teams. How is that looking like? It's amazing. I can't wait to step on the court again. I love to play and to be.
on tour and to travel and to play against the other teams, the other nations and especially the best ones. So it will be great, I'm sure about that and we will try to give our best and I think that we can do fine. I'm sure that we can do a good result and we are working here in Forno. We are training a lot with another team here too and
we are practicing together, it's important to practice together because in this way you can try also things that you could only try while playing against someone. So I'm thinking positive about the finals. Nice, exciting. That's awesome. So when is the finals? Remind me.
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At the beginning of December, so from the third, no, the fourth of December. Gotcha. So you got a few more weeks to prepare. What... And you kind of hinted on it a little bit, just training with other teams and other pairs and whatnot, and with your partner, and that being super valuable. But how else are you preparing for the World Finals? What does that look like for you leading up to a big tournament?
We are working hard in the gym too. We have a physical trainer who helps us and who comes here whenever we need and whenever we have to do a gym session. We are working well in the gym and in the sand we are focusing on the things that we can improve in a short period of time because we have only two weeks left.
And yeah, we are preparing ourselves also from the way of thinking. as I told you before, we work with a psychologist and he helps us a lot. And he can let us understand what...
we need and the way we need to think about beach volleyball, how we need to prepare ourselves and everyone is different so everyone needs a different routine before a match, before a tournament. But I think that for me at least the most important thing is to focus the energies on what's coming up so if I have to play a match
I put my head cuff on and I isolate myself from the rest of the world. And I listen to some music. And when we have to start running and touch the ball, then I put them away. And that's just me, my teammate and my coach. Gotcha. So you have a whole routine leading up to that with just your team up to that first match. That's great.
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Yeah. you, what do you think is the biggest thing that you've learned from your sports psychologist?
Yeah. You mentioned looking towards the future and like what's to come, but like what else is there that has been a game changer for you as a player and probably just as a human too?
I think that the most important thing that I've learned from him is the way how I have to communicate to my partner and to my coach because it's really important and sometimes it's not so easy because we're in different, we're in difficult situations and for example if I'm
I'm having a bad day and I cannot focus on what I need to do. It must be the communication is essential because I have to tell them what I'm feeling and we have to find a solution together. And probably, yes, this was the most important thing that he told me, how to communicate and that being
Truthful is so much important and you have to understand what you are feeling. To understand the situation, you have to understand the situation and if you are feeling bad that day, you have to accept that and to try to find your solution because your solution could be different from someone else's solution.
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It's so wild how much stress affects our ability to perform. And so it sounds like you've found ways to kind of solve that and like respond to that. what is, what is your solution besides like talking to them and letting them know what's going on? whenever you show up to practice and it's a day where you just mentally are just really distracted from that training session.
What are some ways, what are some solutions that you found help you kind of reset? I think is a good word for that. What are ways that you found to be able to reset for yourself? It's for me, it's important to create a good communication between my brain and my body. So if I'm thinking about doing something, but my body is responding in a wrong way.
I need to find the solution for it. So I need to create a new connection between them and to think and do must be the same thing. So if I think about doing something, I need to do it in the way I'm thinking about it.
I can do it in different ways. For example, I can talk to myself and I can say what I'm doing. So if I'm walking and I'm doing a step with my right leg, then I say to myself, I'm moving the right leg and then I'm moving the left leg, things like that. So, yeah.
I know sounds crazy, it does. No, that's awesome. I think that's such a great way to reset. Yeah, if I'm touching the ball, if I'm catching it, OK, I'm catching the ball. But what I'm doing, I'm touching it with my fingers. So, yeah, things like that. And my psychologist told me that. That's really interesting. OK, so obviously you mentioned the ideas or like the
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areas that you do it outside of volleyball but then whenever you step onto the court as you go into a pass do you tell yourself I'm passing this ball with my platform or is it more specific? During the match? No, during the match it must be natural so this type of process must be done before entering the court. Gotcha. So on way to the courts or while warming up but yeah.
not during the match because in the match she must be as natural as possible and things have to come by themselves. Okay, so you've done all of the thinking prior to the match. Yes, you cannot think these things during the match because otherwise it would be overthinking and during the match she must be focused on small thinking. You have to think also only to one, two things and not all the rest. Got you.
What are some key things that you like to think in matches that make you play your best? I like to tell myself and my teammates when we are in the side-out, for example, to focus just on reception and setting, not on dating camps. But because it's different, everyone needs to do different things.
The spiking has not been a problem for me, never. So I have to focus on the other things. For the side out, for example, you have to think about the reception and being ready for the ball and my body must be with the weight on front and not on the back.
Yeah, I need to set as well as possible to my teammates and I have to think about when I need to enter and to go under the ball. These type of things. So more technical, more than mental during the match. Wow, okay. So very Because I'm really ambitious. I'm really ambitious and I don't need too much
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you can do it during the match. I don't need it. I know that I can do it, but I need how to do it. Gotcha. Yeah. So very simple thinking while you're in a match to free you. Wow. Think as less as possible. I mean, it's important to think, but only on the important things. You cannot think about everything. Otherwise, you will do everything bad.
Just overthinking is no good. Gotcha. Yeah. And so I can't imagine how difficult it was to think simply on those big stages that you've been on, the Olympics and the world championships. How was it just the thinking that you did prior, just like you were talking about, like I'm taking a step with my right foot. I'm taking my left foot. Did you do that going into the Olympics as well?
Yes, I did it. But while on the court, I was just enjoying the moment because it was amazing. And especially my last match, we played against Hugh Chang and it was a night match. they felt our lightened and it was so, so beautiful. It was stunning. And there were so many fans and so many people.
didn't even know what Beach volleyball was, but they were there. So it was crazy. amazing experience. unreal. Geez, I can't imagine. my gosh. So you were just like, I'm just going to enjoy this now that I'm here. Yes, especially in the last match. I think that I did it best in my last match than in the first ones. I just enjoyed the moment.
and we lost, but it was a really close match and I think that we played well and it was incredible. The atmosphere was amazing and I enjoyed every single moment of it. Very cool. Okay, that's so fun, man. I can't imagine how fun it was to play in front of that crowd, under the Eiffel Tower, under the lights. It's a night match. I get chills thinking about it.
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Now thinking forward, let's think about the future now. What's next for Valentina? What's next? Marta is not continuing right now, so we have to find a solution for the meantime, but I don't know if she will ever come back. She will be the one to decide that.
And I think that I can do good also with these new athletes that the Italian Federation found and I mean not found because they were already representing Italy but in a different project. so we have Rekorsy Totte here with us and we have Claudia Scampoli, another defender and Giada Bianchi. So we are in for.
We are trying all different possibilities and different partners and we will do it also in tournaments. was my first tournament, Lirio was my first tournament with Reka and we did great. think that we have a bright future ahead of us. We have to work really, really hard, but we have the possibilities to...
which is a great result and we will work hard to do it and we have amazing staff behind that can help us and the Italian Federation supports us completely. So we will do great. Love it, that's so fun. I don't want to cut you but Valentina, I just want to say I watched the quarter game against Carol Barbera that you guys played with Rekha.
That was heartbreaking. That set was not a lift. I know, know. It was an amazing game. I think it was such a fun game to watch. Carol Barbara and the Brazilian team winning the tournament, which I think it was great. It was so fun to watch you guys play and to see the different energy that you have with the newer, know, like just with a different partner. Yeah, we were really aggressive and I love the way we played with Adra.
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It was a great match and we had a lot of fun on the court. We lost it, that's true. It was a bad call, that's true. But we didn't lose that match because of that. Referees are human so they can do mistakes too. And we have to accept it. It was not easy at the beginning because I knew that we could have...
being on the podium, but it didn't depend on us. We could have done better before that last ball. We could have blocked one more ball or we could have done one more side out. So it was not that ball which changed the match. It was an important call, that's true.
Yeah, I mean, we didn't lose that match because of that. Yeah, I love that. I think it's no matter what, like at the end of a game, it's hard. Like that's the first reaction. It's disappointing. And then later on, you're like, I could have done something else. I could have done better early on that I would have not been that tight of a result. But no, so I think it's a great mentality. I do want to touch a point.
I think you're one of the best server on Tor. Thank I want you to take us through your server team.
Okay, during a training you mean? During a game, what is your routine? You're about to get... It's your turn to serve, you just got the ball. What do you think? Do you think of where you're gonna hit the ball, the spot? What's the process? It depends on the moment of the match, that's for sure. If it's an important moment like we are behind...
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and we need to do some breaks. I need to force my service and sometimes it helps us, other times it doesn't because forcing it, I can do more mistakes. So it helps, but not all the time. And my way of thinking while serving is...
I focus on my hand, so it must be really, really hard. yeah, I focus on how I throw the ball and on the way of eating it. So I have to eat it at the center of the ball, not on top, not down, not under the ball.
and not on the right, not on the left. So I'm focusing on the center and it must be really, really hard. yeah, that's all. It can be simple, but I think it's great to have. I don't think about where I need to serve. Not really. Yes, direction, yes, but it's not the most important thing because if you serve well, then it's not necessary.
that it's on the line. example. Hey, Miss Catardi, have you always had your arm cocked back like that before you serve? Yes, it's always been. That's something you've always done probably since indoors or something. I think it's a great technique for people that are starting off. Probably worked on that during the course of the first year, year in Miss Voivod.
When I used to play indoor volleyball, I didn't serve like this. I didn't start like this at least. I think that used to throwing the ball with two hands, if I'm not wrong, but I don't remember honestly. But it was a work in progress. So yeah, it's still a work in progress. Right now, this is working.
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I'm putting my shoulder like this, yes. I know it's different from the others, but it helps me because in this way I can use my arm really fast and I'm throwing the ball with the left hand and my right arm is already here, so I don't need to throw the ball with two and then move it back.
In this way, I don't lose time. So yeah, this is my way of serving. More efficient. I don't know if it's... Yeah, for me, yes. Another question. Have you encountered any injuries and how did you overcome them? Big injuries? Not really. Not yet, please, but I hope not in the future as well.
But when I used to play indoor, I got injured to my elbow, my left one, fortunately, luckily. So I had to work hard to get back, but it was not broken, so it was not a major injury. Thanks for sharing. Big fan, love watching you play. Thank you. Thank you. Awesome. Any other questions or anything from anyone else?
If not, I have two more and we'll wrap it up there. And then, yeah, we'll just call it a day on that. Any other questions for anyone else?
Awesome. My last two questions for you. One, what do you think is your X factor as a partner? know, like what do you bring to the table? And I have read a lot about the joy you play with and just the enjoyment of the sport that you have. But what do you think is like your X factor? And then I'll share the next one after you answer that.
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I'm really ambitious, so I think that's a good thing because I know that I have to work hard to get what I want. And X factor, as you call it, is my energy. I'm full of energy. I want to enjoy playing every single match.
So I'm trying to smile as much as possible and to enjoy it. I'm not successful all the time, I admit it, but I'm working on it. yeah, the energy and the grit and the... I think that's all. The way I want to play and...
the good things that I want to take from beach volleyball. Nice, I love that. mean volleyball is such a great sport, why not enjoy it? know? Yeah, exactly. And while you're winning is always more enjoyable. Yeah, that's true, it's easier when you win, but you have to enjoy also just being in Rio, for example, in Rio it was my first time there.
And I had lot of fun. were so many fans and so many people to watch us playing and it was amazing. That's fun. It sounds like a great experience. then my next question for you is thinking back to your younger self, if you were talking to that person, your younger self, and that person was still debating if they were going to play indoor or beach,
Or you weren't playing indoor at the time, but you were thinking about getting into beach volleyball. Or maybe you were thinking through your dreams. Like what do you think you would tell that younger self?
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To follow your dreams and to do everything you can to try to reach them. And to create your opportunities. They don't fall on you. They don't fall on you. You have to create them and yeah, to follow your passion and to work hard.
Well, Valentina, thank you so much. you don't mind, we'll probably make this into a podcast. Is that all right with you? Yes. Perfect. Thank you for inviting me. It has been such an honor getting to chat with you and we wish you the best. We know you're going to crush it. have at least seven or eight new fans that are in here. If you want to go ahead and drop in the chat, maybe just one way that we can keep up with you and keep track of your journey. Yeah, sure.
You mean like... It can be Instagram, social media, something Yeah, Instagram is fine.
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Very nice. Underscore? Yeah, okay. Instagram.
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Well, Valentina, thank you so much for your time. Good luck in the World Championships. Thank you. It was an honor to be here with you. Thanks. We'll see you in LA in 2028. That's right. I will work to make it happen. Thank you.
